Comments on: Global Warming the Fraud Continues in 2008

By: David Cage

David Cage — Sun, 03 Aug 2008 19:32:41 +0000

It is difficult to squash any existing myth especially if a powerfulinterest has much to gain. Certainly the manufacturers of wind turbines, suppliers of gas and even of oil are now also complicit in the CO2 based global warming swindle.
Why gas and oil?
Both have a lot to lose from the revival of coal which lost ground in the cheap oil era but now are their only realistic short term competitor. A competitor for a product massively speculated on having an equally massive price rise which could be wiped out if coal were revived. A lot of the big name greens will be financially devastated if the CO2 myth were debunked quickly enough to prevent them offloading their speculative investments.

By: Giuseppe

Giuseppe — Mon, 28 Jan 2008 22:41:49 +0000

After a web survey I found that:
NASA says 2007 is the 2nd warmest year

NOAA says 2007 is the 5th warmest year
http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/research/2007/ann/global.html

NOAA reports also that 2007 is the 9th warmest year but only for ocean surface temperature.
So, the sentence above “2007 was only the 9th warmest year since global temperature readings were
first made in 1861″ is a misquotation and misleading.

I am an “environmental skeptics” but I also
believe it is fundamental to report the
“right” information everywhere.

Giuseppe

By: Lynne

Lynne — Thu, 10 Jan 2008 12:36:27 +0000

While I imagine that the environmentalists are in this to reduce the damage that we are doing to the earth, for the corporate industrialists it is all about smoke and mirrors. If they make it look like they are doing something about the environment, maybe no one will notice that they haven’t actually reduced their emissions levels. They can claim to be making the token gesture of buying carbon credits and continue polluting with impunity.

By: black Sheep

black Sheep — Thu, 10 Jan 2008 11:11:12 +0000

There is controversy over how to interpret the temperature data and how accurate the data is in the first place.

Before any Goreites decide to put on the white sheets and head up to the top of the mountain and await the end because these hurricanes, tornadoes, thaws, ice cap melting and heat waves reported by the media are a “sign of the end of the times”…well they should know that the signs have been around for a long time.

Non-Goreites may find the historical insights interesting.

http://www.booty.org.uk/booty.weather/climate/100BC_499AD.htm

http://website.lineone.net/~fight/Stepney/weather.htm

per Post by: mz | Aug 13, 2007 12:22:10 PM on Coyote Blog

********In AD48 the Thames flooded and 10,000 people drowned. Two years later the winter was so severe that “all rivers and lakes” were frozen from November until the following April. In AD107 it rained heavily for nine months, the crops failed naturally enough and there was famine. In AD134 there was another harsh winter and the Thames froze for two months, but just five years later a drought was so severe that the Thames actually dried up for two days. AD214 the River Trent overflowed and flooded the land for twenty miles either side. In AD679 “St.Wilfred’s Drought” caused widespread famine the effects of which continued to be felt for the next three years. In AD800 a great westerly gale blew that, according to contemporary accounts, “destroyed cities”. In AD944 another gale blew throughout the country and destroyed 1,500 houses in London alone. In 1035 there was widespread frost on Midsummer’s Day that killed the crops standing in the fields (mind you, a hundred years before in Germany, they didn’t get the crops in because it was so hot that reapers dropped dead in the fields).

England was hit by earthquakes in 1067, 1081, 1089, 1120, 1133, 1180, 1185 and 1193. However the following century it was back to floods again, in 1233, 1236 (twice), 1250, 1258, 1277 and 1287. Mind you, in 1231 it didn’t rain from March until October. The 1300s were fairly quiet, but in 1407 there was frost for 25 weeks, in 1473 and 1478 the summers were so hot that farm-workers died harvesting. In 1480 there was another earthquake, and again in 1508.

In general the 1500s were marked by severe winters, while in 1527 it rained every day from April 12th until June 3rd. 1540 and 1541 were the hottest summers for 500 years. In the early 1600s there were many severe winters – on May Day 1627 snow fell 2 feet deep all over Derbyshire, whilst in 1684 the sea froze over from Dover to Calais.

More recently, many can remember the Great Storm of 1987, but there were similar events in 1703 when up to 15,000 sailors lost their lives, in 1713; in 1861 when up to 200 ships were wrecked off the North East coast; in 1897; in 1901 when 46 ships were lost between Berwick and the Tees with the deaths of 200 sailors; in 1908; 1943 and 1953.

Hardly surprising, then, that the English are so obsessed with the weather. And all this took place before we’d invented Global Warming. Now of course the public and government’s view at the moment is that climate change is a major worry: is this brain washing, misconception, or substantially true ?

However there are two steps in major government revenue generation programmes:

1) Make people fear something,

2) Then tax it.

This has worked for centuries !
*********************

By: black Sheep

black Sheep — Wed, 09 Jan 2008 17:35:05 +0000

Has anyone else noticed how the corporate industrialists and financiers have joined arms with the socialist network to save the planet?

This must be a defining time in the history of the planet when capitalism and socialism have joined ranks. That the corporate elites are leading the charge to save the planet bodes well since their commitment to serve the bottom line and externalize the environmental costs of production are a reason for the mess the planet is in.

ttp://www.wsws.org/articles/2007/jun2007/carb-j11.shtml

Just wonder how the corporates who have placed their eggs in the global warming basked will respond to the news that the planet is no longer warming?

I wonder if in any way they will be going out of their way to influence government policy by the back door? No that back door lobbying & policy making goes on in a democracy like Canada’s?